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Amok · Jan 01, 2006, 08:48 AM // 08:48

i don't think it's overpowered, in fact it's not difficult to beat, it's just annoying that everyone's doing it and it doesn't really take a great deal of skill or organisation.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jan 01, 2006, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

"The Frog is morally opposed to IWAY"

does this mean A.NET will remove the Warrior's "I Will Avenge You" skill?

Maybe the frog just doesnt like the pets being used as cannon fodder. Animals have to stick together!

Ellix Cantero · Jan 01, 2006, 08:53 AM // 08:53

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Originally Posted by Inureface

Just make it apply to party members only, IWAY with pets is overpowered anyway.

Well, I had an epiphany the other night. If they did this it would screw with maybe say pve r/w beastmasters--maybe. So, one way they could subtly nerf it, while retaining functionality for legitimate pet users, would be to have iway only count your own pet, and not those of teammates. I believe this would go a loong way toward balancing iway.

Yes it's beatable, but it's overpowered and easy. I was goofing off in a rank 1.5 (maybe) iway group the other night and ran into a guildy who's always in r9+ groups (normally balanced) and we handled them. The players my group weren't all that great, we shouldn't have won, period.

Malchior Devenholm · Jan 01, 2006, 09:01 AM // 09:01

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Originally Posted by Amok

i don't think it's overpowered, in fact it's not difficult to beat, it's just annoying that everyone's doing it and it doesn't really take a great deal of skill or organisation.

Agreed, IWAY overpowered-no IWAY overused-OMG YES!

bb IWAY *insert evil laughter here*

Makkert · Jan 01, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

The Frog is morally opposed to IWAY...that is priceless!
Never knew I had something in common with an amphibian!

chippxero · Jan 01, 2006, 10:25 AM // 10:25

I can't see them changing it, it's not like it's unbeatable and the longer the builds around the more people that will learn to beat it making it less and less used.

It's peoples tactics that need to change not the game.

Pagan Greyfeather · Jan 01, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I agree that its easy to beat but its annoying. Every time I go in its "How are we handling IWAY?" And not in the respectful tone that used to be used for "How do we handle ranger spike?" or "What do you want to do if we run into an FoC Build?" Its more along the lines of "What do you want to do about the screaming, suicidal 5 year olds waving the machetes around?" Its just annoying. It wouldn't be so bad if there were only a few "elite" groups running it that knew what they were doing. But every other freaking n00b pug group is IWAY. And most of them act about 12. My hats off to WN and MATH and those folks who do it and do it well but my Guild hasn't been in the Hall in like 2 months just because we got sick of the stupid IWAY teams. Still, if they throw in a nerf I hope it doesn't affect Rangers in any way. That would REALLY tick me off. My 2 cents.

-Pagan

BellyFlop · Jan 01, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06

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Agreed, IWAY overpowered-no IWAY overused-OMG YES!

bb IWAY *insert evil laughter here*

uhh

tomcruisejr · Jan 01, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15

something is overpowered when its unbeatable.

we had the chance to meet The Last Pride [EvIL] (http://ladder.guildwars.com/ladder.dll?tag=EvIL) and Temporal Threshold [TT] (http://ladder.guildwars.com/ladder.dll?tag=TT) in GvG. if IWAY is overpowered, we should've beat those two. but no. they beat us.

people should play like EvIL and TT and not whine and cry for a nerf. improving one's game is the solution.

if you want an overpowered skill, just look for "Dual Shot" in Ranger's skill list.

SisterMercy · Jan 01, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

Yes, she said more races, but we play as humans...I guess she meant there will be more races of NPCs but still only humans for us.

That's going to be a big disappointment. I know of a few people including myself who were looking forward to playing elven or dwarven characters.

I've been quite pleased with Anet thus far (and the Auction House is great news), but this one is a bit of a let-down.

BigTru · Jan 01, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

if you want an overpowered skill, just look for "Dual Shot" in Ranger's skill list.

Heh, heh... Good point. A non-elite ranged Hundred Blades that can have preperations (minus AoE)? W00t!

viper008 · Jan 01, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

For everyone crying for nerfs all the time

Your builds will get nerfed eventually because you nerf everyone else build so you can beat them and thin those nerfed builds will cry for a nerf on your build. Therefore, this is a never-ending cycle that you are playing with. Instead of coming up a way to beat those builds since every build, have their weakness and strengths it is much easier to cry for the nerf bat to do the work for you.

MadOnion · Jan 01, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

The frog says he's morally opposed to IWAY. Which probably means he doesn't like the idea of unskilled players gaining their rank through IWAY...

Tyrent Frath · Jan 01, 2006, 09:39 PM // 21:39

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Originally Posted by MadOnion

The frog says he's morally opposed to IWAY. Which probably means he doesn't like the idea of unskilled players gaining their rank through IWAY...

i thought he was morally oposed to it because it used animal's deaths to achieve a win?

Daemon Dremora · Jan 01, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47

I am opposed to IWAY and always will be. i tried playing as an IWAY warrior just to see what the big deal was and i did ok but then some person told me i wasnt even an IWAY warrior. I think it was because my team just pwnzrd him in HoH. But i dont know. And i really want to know what will be special in the collectors of Chap. 2.

The Primeval King · Jan 01, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Sounds good to me..

I dont get why everyone is complaining about IWAY though when you can beat it pretty easily.. maybe it's just me

Also, Is there any word on what the other class will be? Or won't there be another class? I was hoping for maybe a Summoner ^^

Could someone tell me about what time and district that the Frog and Gaile talk? I live in the Eastern U.S., and the time I heard it was around 1:00 PM on Saturday, but I don't think that's right now, so someone let me know please

Soflaz · Jan 01, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by SisterMercy

That's going to be a big disappointment. I know of a few people including myself who were looking forward to playing elven or dwarven characters.

I think we need some new classes other than dwarf elf and orc. For all that is good every single rpg has those in them. I like the fact tat there were Charr and toher crap insted of those. Now I know there are dwarfs in the game, but atleast there are no freaking elves!!!

Ellix Cantero · Jan 01, 2006, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by SisterMercy

That's going to be a big disappointment. I know of a few people including myself who were looking forward to playing elven or dwarven characters.

There's a chat log somewhere that indicates that there will never be elves in Tyria. Sorry :|

handsome henry · Jan 01, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

If one of the new classes is an assasin and the other a druid I will laugh my ass off. Anybody else thinking Diablo 2?

Theus · Jan 01, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by handsome henry

If one of the new classes is an assasin and the other a druid I will laugh my ass off. Anybody else thinking Diablo 2?

LIEK ROFL U R LIEK SO FUXING RITE!1211!!11BCUSE NO OTHR GEAM HAF EVR USD DUIDS OR ASASINS!1!11!!

Jesus why do people immediately think of one game simply because one class is the same name as another one.